Appotus Dominus

[Xorne]

No post in the public section for like 4 days now. Where the fuck is my extra entertainment? It ain't fun unless there is some kind of drama going on to eat my popcorn with! Get starting please before I do!!1

[Jazzmasta]

You remember this rogue named Xorne? Ya well he couldn't outparse a bard if he tried. So sad..
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[saeinya]

lol

[dnief]

I am not sure people are really listening. It's frustrating when you try to warn people about the people in power and what their own documents say there gonna do to change the world.

I tried debating 9/11 and the fact that the capitalism in this country could be highjacked on these boards over a year ago. Then there was much criticism about my predictions. I was told then by medding that I 'was just preaching'. Now that it has happened and we are moving towards a socialistic country I think people are starting to wake up that there is more going on than meets the eye.

However, many people that debate politics on these forums couldn't describe what a false flagged terrorist act is so it's no fun discussing.

[Innania]

Meh socialism works in Sweden and Norway, why not here. Eh comrades?
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Illusionist Innania the Ultimate Illusionist of Norrath level 85 Enchanter
Sage Innamien the Bibliophile, Legend of Norrath level 85 Magician

[FrogbaitSpiritwalker]

Dnief, please explain what you mean by false terrorist attacks. From what you've posted before, You are saying that they attacks never happened and that it is all a hoax, That the troops over there are fighting phantoms. Please explain to me then where my Aunt who was on AA Flight 11 is and where 15 of my good friends are who supposedly "died" in Iraq are, since according to you, they are alive since it was all a hoax and phantoms.

[Innania]

I dont know about "phantom" terrorist attacks, but I'd sure as hell like to know why we ended up in Iraq when all ties to Al Qieada (spelled wrong I'm sure) track back to Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. That's just me though
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Illusionist Innania the Ultimate Illusionist of Norrath level 85 Enchanter
Sage Innamien the Bibliophile, Legend of Norrath level 85 Magician

[dnief]

Studies have been done on the World Trade Center building material before the evidence was systematically destroyed and the findings were that Thermate was used in the demolition of the buildings. Look up a group called Engineers and Architects for 9/11 truth. So, aside from the the obvious nature of the collapses looking like controlled demolition and several eye witnesses hearing the bombs go off in the basement there IS actual physical evidence to that effect.

I never said that a planes didn't hit the pentagon or the world trade center. I just questioned how could it happen when Norad was 20 minutes away from the Pentagon. Of the 200 or so cameras that are faced towards the Pentagon only 4 frames of one video was ever released and it didn't show the plane. this might be where you are confused about phantoms.

In 2004 it was declassified that the Gulf Of Tonkin incident that pulled us into the Vietnam war was a lie.

Forgive me if I look to the past when analyzing the present.

Research for yourself:
http://www.wearechange.org/geteducated/


Anyway i can go on and on. the fact remains the the country is being systematically destroyed by the President and others in order to incorporate into the North America Union which will then be merged with the four other unions to form a one world government with one currency. the first bailout(the one that says inside it that noone can audit it and know where the money went) that Bush put into place went to foreign bankers who own this country.

Why is it so hard to believe? There is a European union now and President Bush signed into law the Securities and Prosperity partnership which will eventually nullify the borders.

[Teklan]

[Stryffe]

[dnief]

Debunk this site:
http://www.wearechange.org/geteducated/

[dnief]

[Gillaian]

I like pie.

[Auger]

Punch and Pie please...

[dunnodoncare]

Dnief, your paranoid delusions have been refuted before. Why do you keep going back to things that have been shown to be false? Do you own one of those conspiracy websites or something?


The thermite photo you linked in the past shows part of the recovery effort. Thermite was used to cut steel during the recovery. A photo of a man standing near a steel beem that has certainly been cut by thermite is interesting, but the interesting part is that there is no smoke and no multi-story pile of bent and broken steel. This indicates that the photo was taken well into the salvage process otherwise there would have been SMOKE and a fucking pile of fucking rubble and fucking burning stuff!

Your delusions make you appear borderline insane. Worse though is the way your claims have been refuted and yet you still go back to repeating them. This indicates to me that you are not only uninterested in what really happened but outright lying to people.

Stop being such a fucking dipshit.

Medding.

[Xorne]

[Mandaar]

Yes xorne, but in this case, medding is correct. The picture is 15 different kinds of flawed.

[dunnodoncare]

I find that Dnief isn't interested in the truth, Xorne. When the truth has been shown to him he refused to acknowledge it. I often refuted his bizarre claims and he would back off on that particular topic, only to come back to it later. This is dishonesty at its finest. Honest people simple do not behave that way. When something is proven to an honest person they do not agree with it temporarily and wait for you to turn around so they can repeat something that has been shown to be blatantly false. Dnief does this on a regular basis, or did in my prior conversations with him.

Intellectual honesty is very important. Those who lack it quickly become untrustworthy. If a point is proven, admit it. Concede points when they are made. Reluctance to concede points is generally associated with ideologues.


Once a person has been shown to be unwilling to accept the conclusions of elementary reason and logic, one of the best ways remaining to get them to learn from their mistakes is to point at them and laugh. Not challenging conspiracy theorists allows them to control the playing field. They must be confronted at every step and challenged to justify their position. When they refuse to concede a point, push them harder and harder and harder until they admit that nothing nowhere nohow will change their mind, no amount of evidence or even absolute proof. This immunity to reason may be something that cannot be changed, but they are not immune to being laughed at.

As for your kitchen metaphor, imagine that I have a live feed of that kitchen via webcam and have shown it to the man yelling 'fire' and yet he still claims his kitchen is on fire no matter how many people show him that live footage. This is the position Dnief is in. He claimed no plane hit the pentagon, I showed him photographic evidence. Did he ever change his opinion? I think not. This is disrespect for the truth. I find it intolerable, why don't you?

Medding.

[imblazed]

Who is this dnief person?

[Nefra]

omg drama.. Tthere was a great mini show thing on about John Adams, was such a good thing to watch to really remember what this country was founded on, everything we do now is sooo opposite from what we fought for.. so sad.