Appotus Dominus

dnief · Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 357

Trailer#1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od8bcCvX3jU

Trailer#2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J2W7gFzChM

We have to go viral with this video to save America and the World.

dnief · Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 357

THIS VIDEO PUTS EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU. WATCH IT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE ECONOMY IS FAILING AND WHO IS BEHIND IT.

WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNnhL78ASWM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Teklan · Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 1511 Location: NC

This is a pretty shitty agenda if its taking hundreds of years to take hold

FrogbaitSpiritwalker · Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 469

Ok Dnief...You are paranoid. There isn't a reason behind everything. You are too telopian (sp). Everything is not out to get you. I personally like you man, but you are a major conspiracist, so is my best friend. You guys are way too paranoid. Do some kind of meditation to relive your stress, like yoga or think about some irrational thought to you. Or even just say one word that has no meaning to you whatsoever, like Om or Sheeroo -- it will relieve your stress and ease your paranoia.

dnief · Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 357

Your lack of education in these matters disturbs me.

FrogbaitSpiritwalker · Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 469

Dnief...I keep myself very well informed on these kinds of matters... honestly, i'm tired of all the conspiracy bullshit. You can believe whatever you please about what is happening to this country, but please stop spamming this crap on every single post.

dnief · Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 357

This video is #1 on Google video right now!

I recommend everyone watches it! Tell your friends!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756

Teklan · Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 1511 Location: NC

After watching the first 17 minutes, all I can say is...

This is a crock of shit movie. Why? I have over a page written down about how this movie itself is deceptive and telling half truths or even just stretching truths or making biased assumptions. Lets list what I have in the 17 minutes (of a nearly 2 hour movie).

They depict young black that look to be in some sort of militia (obviously meant to be frowned upon). This group has nothing to do with Obama other than they support him. If a Nazi youth supported Obama, does that make Obama a Nazi? Fuck no. Deceptive.

They depict the statement of a Senator? about instigating martial law if a bill didn't pass. This was during the Bush administration; not Obama. Although they do go into Bush at the beginning so it fits in slightly it is still deceptive making people think maybe its for the Stimulus Bill vs the Bailout.

They use the numbers 1 million dead Iraqis and over 5000 dead US troops. There is no good estimate for the number of dead Iraqis. This has a list of all the major surveys with "95% confidence":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
As you can see, even when theres 95% confidence all of the surveys vary immensely from each other. This movie just chose the survey with the largest number.
For US soldier deaths:
Reported Deaths: 4258
Confirmed Deaths: 4257 (For the Iraq War)
662 dead in the Afghanistan war. (Source for both is Icasualties.org)
Out of the 4920 (not 5000) dead, approximately 1/4 aren't even war related. These could be accidents, suicides, etc. which happen in the real world to every day people.

One of the persons in this movie say that Obama claimed to stop the government spying. First off, this is taken out of context if he did make such a statement. Phone tapping etc. is what comes to mind here. But what was the point of this statement anyways?

They bring about Andrew Jackson assassination attemptS. If you look things up, the only attempt you read about is by a painter who was deemed clearly mentally ill by the time he was an adult (Richard Lawrence). Agents of the bank of England hired him for the job? Thats a bunch of conspiracy bullshit that has no basis to it.

This movie calls "the new world order" a corporate takeover. Well they definitely run contradictory about this later, but lets go over real life situations when it comes to this statement. The government is bailing out the banks that supposedly caused bankruptcy of others, the government is bailing out many businesses, and the government is taking partial ownership or "dictating" certain limitations of greed amongst wallstreet CEOs etc. This is the exact opposite of a corporate takeover. Where do they get their bullshit from?

One of the speakers lists types of people not on Obama's cabinet after saying its exclusively Wallstreet people. No GM or oil industry people are on it. No shit? Not only does the public despise GM and the oil industry so it would be a publicity nightmare, but GM got bailout money and thus probably don't have the best people to choose from to begin with, and the oil industry is Bush's game, not Obama's.

JF Kennedy was brought up as first being thought of as a "puppet" partially due to his father being a Nazi supporter or something like that. They then list why he ran counter to being a "puppet" (and ultimately this led to his assassination): making deals with Soviets, wanting to pull troops out of Vietnam, civil reform.
Making deals with Soviets....a parallel to this is the Obama administration opening up dialogue to countries Bush closed the door on. This includes but isn't limited to Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba.
Pulling troops out of Vietnam.....Obama pulling troops out of Iraq. Hello?
Civil reform....ambiguous as to this "meaning" but you could argue a parallel here is healthcare reform.

The rapper that shows up in the first 17 min a couple of times makes an uninformed/supported claim that we were on the verge of a revolution, so they threw a black man's face on the presidency. Using just all of you conspiracy theorists arguments, if anything, Dnief stating states claiming sovereignty is causing a revolution, not preventing one. I don't see civilian protests nearly as grand as during the Vietnam War and we didn't even have a revolution then.
The narrator even capitalizes on this topic saying "if there is a revolution, they just throw the president out of power" and replace him with a new face. Ever hear of a 2 term limit? The system throws them out of power, not this fake "New World Order" that you guys fear so much.

So as far as I see, this video is clearly biased and does not at all open any "doors" to truths that may be out there. It is all or most conspiracy bullshit that has no basis. Many things stated here in the video runs contradictory at some point, whether it be in the video or some statement from supporting sites or whatnot.

Teklan · Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 1511 Location: NC

Sometimes you have to look at the source of things. Alex Jones is very bias, and he has a motive to "bring down the government".

From Wikipedia (you can call it an unreliable source; however, Wikipedia cites sources and this is no exception. It is therefore more reliable than many people downplay it to be)

In 1998, Jones spearheaded the effort to rebuild the David Koresh-led Branch Davidian compound/church near Waco, Texas. He often featured the project on his cable access program and claimed that Koresh and his followers were peaceful people who were murdered by Attorney General Janet Reno and the ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) in the infamous Waco Siege.[13]

He is mad at the government for killing fellow Christians of his. So he tries to get back at the government with whatever propaganda he can accumulate from random things. How's that for coming up with a conspiracy theory? Zing

I urge you to explore Alex Jones biography as much as you explore these conspiracies you so whole-heartedly believe in.

dnief · Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 357

I believe as Alex Jones does and that is that the government burned down the buildings with innocent people inside.

What the fuck are you zinging?

Waco did wake up Alex Jones and I was smart enough to know that the government overstepped its bounds by killing innocent people in Waco also.

So your not proving anything other that you are pretty damn naive.

Attreus · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 190

This is all mute. if you watch videos for your information (and i do) "independance day" shows us that we will be attacked by aliens. when it happens the whole world will band together in one unified defence to prevent global extinction and worse... anal probing.
when this happens all of this will seem a small thing.
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dnief · Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 357

Attreus · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 190

Wow
try this one
www.psych.org
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FrogbaitSpiritwalker · Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 469

You lie Attreus. There are soon to be 4 viable proofs that we will be ended by robots! Terminators 1,2,3 and soon to be 4! Obv. since I have more examples to cite from, I am right Very Happy

. WTF you smokin?

Teklan · Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 1511 Location: NC

Anyone heard of sarcasm on the internet? It is a disease that runs rampant lol

Attreus · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 190

dont make me yell at you over the internet!!
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kilhugh721 · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 47 Location: FL

Dnief i agree with you, this is scary shit and very real. People are sheep and blindly follow government and look to BIG government to run their lives and solve their problems. When free thinking and gun ownership are taken away, this country will join the mindless european countries in their "New World Order" and let the very few who think they are intellectual play god with their lives....wake up or become a sheep for slaughter.

Innania · Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 793 Location: Winter Haven, FL

Xorne · Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 643

This is not a partisan issue Innania. Red / Blue, Left / Right, Republican / Democrat is a false paradigm, it's just meant to divide and conquer. Stop wasting your time trying to put people in boxes and then blaming said boxes for XYZ and instead focus on what's really going on behind the puppets on this diplomatic stage. I know it's hard to do when the TV is blasting that 24/7 and everyone around you are doing the parrots, but it is possible to break free of the conditioning. You just have to try, it might take you a few tries I know it took me a while.

kilhugh721 · Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 47 Location: FL

exactly xorne, republican/democrat, foxnews/msnbc, it doesnt matter.. they are all pawns. Look at our nation and see where the real power lies, in the Federal Reserve and its private shareholders that have indebted america and forced their will upon the masses through market and economic control. I dont know about you, but i dont feel like having the Rockerfellers and the like telling me how to live. They are economic terrorists and socialistis... pulling the strings on both sides.