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Mandaar
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 Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: Some things to think about with internet 2 and current trend |
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I just saw this and it affected me. It's likely that this isn't complete, but until I adequately research this, I encourage you to use this as a springboard to go find your own conclusions.
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Actually, makes me more nervous. Again, sorry to pop over from the tinfoil hat section.
http://www.internet2.edu/
Federally Funded Researchers Want To Scrap The Internet
Seeking further funding from Congress for "clean slate" projects
Infowars.net | April 16, 2007
Steve Watson
Researchers funded by the federal government want to shut down the internet and start over, citing the fact that at the moment there are loopholes in the system whereby users cannot be tracked and traced all the time.
Time magazine has reported that several foundations and universities including Rutgers, Stanford, Princeton, Carnegie Mellon and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology are pursuing individual projects, along with the Defense Department, in order to wipe out the current internet and replace it with a new network which will satisfy big business and government:
One challenge in any reconstruction, though, will be balancing the interests of various constituencies. The first time around, researchers were able to toil away in their labs quietly. Industry is playing a bigger role this time, and law enforcement is bound to make its needs for wiretapping known.
There's no evidence they are meddling yet, but once any research looks promising, "a number of people (will) want to be in the drawing room," said Jonathan Zittrain, a law professor affiliated with Oxford and Harvard universities. "They'll be wearing coats and ties and spilling out of the venue."
The projects echo moves we have previously reported on to clamp down on internet neutrality and even to designate a new form of the internet known as Internet 2 .
This would be a faster, more streamlined elite equivalent of the internet available to users who were willing to pay more for a much improved service. providers may only allow streaming audio and video on your websites if you were eligible for Internet 2.
Of course, Internet 2 would be greatly regulated and only "appropriate content" would be accepted by an FCC or government bureau. Everything else would be relegated to the "slow lane" internet, the junkyard as it were. Our techie rulers are all too keen to make us believe that the internet as we know it is "already dead" .
Google is just one of the major companies preparing for internet 2 by setting up hundreds of " server farms " through which eventually all our personal data - emails, documents, photographs, music, movies - will pass and reside.
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However, experts state that the "clean slate" projects currently being undertaken go even further beyond projects like Internet2 and National LambdaRail, both of which focus primarily on next-generation needs for speed.
In tandem with broad data retention legislation currently being introduced worldwide, such "clean slate" projects may represent a considerable threat to the freedom of the internet as we know it. EU directives and US proposals for data retention may mean that any normal website or blog would have to fall into line with such new rules and suddenly total web regulation would become a reality.
In recent months, a chorus of propaganda intended to demonize the Internet and further lead it down a path of strict control has spewed forth from numerous establishment organs:
* In a display of bi-partisanship, there have recently been calls for all out mandatory ISP snooping on all US citizens by both Democrats and Republicans alike.
* Republican Senator John McCain recently tabled a proposal to introduce legislation that would fine blogs up to $300,000 for offensive statements, photos and videos posted by visitors on comment boards. It is well known that McCain has a distaste for his blogosphere critics, causing a definite conflict of interest where any proposal to restrict blogs on his part is concerned.
* During an appearance with his wife Barbara on Fox News last November, George Bush senior slammed Internet bloggers for creating an "adversarial and ugly climate."
* The White House's own recently de-classified strategy for "winning the war on terror" targets Internet conspiracy theories as a recruiting ground for terrorists and threatens to "diminish" their influence.
* The Pentagon recently announced its effort to infiltrate the Internet and propagandize for the war on terror.
* In a speech last October, Homeland Security director Michael Chertoff identified the web as a "terror training camp," through which "disaffected people living in the United States" are developing "radical ideologies and potentially violent skills." His solution is "intelligence fusion centers," staffed by Homeland Security personnel which will go into operation next year.
* The U.S. Government wants to force bloggers and online grassroots activists to register and regularly report their activities to Congress. Criminal charges including a possible jail term of up to one year could be the punishment for non-compliance.
* A landmark legal case on behalf of the Recording Industry Association of America and other global trade organizations seeks to criminalize all Internet file sharing of any kind as copyright infringement, effectively shutting down the world wide web - and their argument is supported by the U.S. government.
* A landmark legal ruling in Sydney goes further than ever before in setting the trap door for the destruction of the Internet as we know it and the end of alternative news websites and blogs by creating the precedent that simply linking to other websites is breach of copyright and piracy.
* The European Union, led by former Stalinist and potential future British Prime Minister John Reid, has also vowed to shut down "terrorists" who use the Internet to spread propaganda.
* The EU data retention bill, passed last year after much controversy and with implementation tabled for late 2007, obliges telephone operators and internet service providers to store information on who called who and who emailed who for at least six months. Under this law, investigators in any EU country, and most bizarrely even in the US , can access EU citizens' data on phone calls, sms', emails and instant messaging services.
* The EU also recently proposed legislation that would prevent users from uploading any form of video without a license.
* The US government is also funding research into social networking sites and how to gather and store personal data published on them, according to the New Scientist magazine . "At the same time, US lawmakers are attempting to force the social networking sites themselves to control the amount and kind of information that people, particularly children, can put on the sites."
We are being led to believe that a vast army of maniac pedophiles or terrorists are on the loose and we must do away with all forms of privacy in order to stop them. This is akin to saying that blanket cctv prevents crime. As if to say "if we film everyone all the time, even innocent people, then no one will ever commit any crimes."
Increasingly we are seeing this in every aspect of our lives. Recording, tracking and retaining our data in the name of keeping us all safe. Everyone is now treated as guilty until proven innocent.
Make no mistake, the internet, one of the greatest outposts of free speech ever created is under constant attack by powerful people who cannot operate within a society where information flows freely and unhindered. Both American and European moves mimic stories we hear every week out of State Controlled Commu nist China, where the internet is strictly regulated and virtually exists as its own entity away from the rest of the web.
The Internet is freedom's best friend and the bane of control freaks. Its eradication is one of the short term goals of those that seek to centralize power and subjugate their populations under a surveillance panopticon prison, whether that be in Communist China, Neoconservative America or the Neofascist EU. |
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Mandaar
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Keep in mind Comcast and AT&T are both toying with ideas that will make the internet much more controlled and potentially expensive.
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Mandaar
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Also keep in mind, that at least parts of that are sensationalist. But, enough of it is fact that it's frightening.
My current feeling is that their goal is to have most of the country that is online using a secure sign-in system by 2015. You will be required to sign in, and you will be tracked at every portal.
The European and Australian precedents are not just terrible, they are TERRIFYING. |
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carp75
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, McCain for president.. what a disgusting psychopath. There. McInsane, you have what you need to take a disabled man from his wife. You happy now, you sick disgusting Nazi?
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Mandaar
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I would appreciate if there the discussion stays focused to this particular issue if there is any. |
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carp75
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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The issue here is free speech, Mandaar.
"A war on Amendments 1 and 2, A war to ensure that they can find you."
Y'all still don't believe us?
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Teklan
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The issue, from what I'm grasping, is not freedom of speech. It is the freedom of privacy. It is the whole issue about your government spying on you.
It goes both ways though. They spy on you BECAUSE people *do* do illegal things. But at the same time, it is your right to not be spied upon. |
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Mandaar
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The problem teklan, is they are using the most spurious of claims to bolster their arguments.
If they are right, there are throngs of terrorists everywhere. We are all plotting action, and hordes of internet predators roam it's halls.
The truth is, there is a vast miority of people that are scumbags. One of the worst things that could happen, would be to have a structured, tracked internet for all persons. Then they have a tool. Then the potential is really there. Not saying it would be the end of liberty like the author, but the potential would be there if you know history. |
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carp75
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Teklan, my friend, the values that the USA was founded on grants me, you, and every citizen certain powers over government.
Our right not to be constantly spied upon supercedes their supposed "right" to fervently track down those who do "illegal" things. It does not work both ways here in America.
It might be easier for illegal gang activity to be squashed if everyone was tracked, but punishing the innocent is NOT an American value. If we want gangs squashed, how about parents become a bit more involved in their child's life? How about instead of wasting our kids' time in schools with books from 1882 we teach them about gangs 2 hours per week?
I also thought we had the right to vote on what is "illegal". I was wrong. Prop 215 was my lesson that they don't give a $@#$ about the "majority".
The issue here IS freedom of speech as well as privacy. Deleting material from the internet that is badmouthing the direction our country is heading is indeed removal of our right to speak freely. Legal action against this speech, as proposed by McPain, is tyranny.
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